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hey what happend at the end did dan get killed when the car hit him or did he stay alive the last episode didnt show anything

Okay, Love this podcast...so glad that you guys have decided to stay true to your opinions instead of holding back for the sake of Leyton and Brucas fans. (That was probably the only problem) Although I myself am a Brucas, I wouldn't mind if Lucas and Brooke didn't end up together. What I do have a HUGE problem with is exactly what you three brought up this podcast. Why the writers have Brooke on team Leyton is beyond me. That's a little hard to believe even in the fictitious town of Tree Hill.
Peyton is awesome when she is being true to herself and focusing on her art and music...great observation, and to be honest with you, all she ever seems to do when she is with Lucas is whine about stuff, at least when she was with Jake, she was a fun loving character to watch.
Love the Jaime and Dan storyline, I have had a personal experience to that in my life and although my Grandfather was NOT a murderer, he wasn't really excepted by my family. Never stopped me from asking about him and wanting to see him...and it all started when I was about 5. Very realistic and great to show both sides, the curiousity and innocence from Jaime and the difficulty Haley, Nate, Lucas and Deb face with this.
As far as Mouth, you guys are hysterical, Milli would have been awesome with Skills in my opinion, Mouth doesn't need a girl...I mean he has always been surrounded by the hot chicks, Brooke in the first couple seasons, then Rachel...then he had three different girlfriends...Erica Marsh, Gigi and Shelly Simon the Teen Clean. He has had is far share of girls, so I think that the writers should had Mille be with someone else. She is sooo sweet and not to mention gorgeous. Ah, okay enough for me, but wanted to say thanks and one more thing...I really want more Lucas and Haley scenes, and please Nathan, take your wife out and show her some romance! They are only 22 for God's sake and they act like they are 30. It seems like this 4 year jump may have been a bit overdone. I am 24 and there is NO way that OTH characters are being written as normal 22 year olds. Ok, gotta go, keep up the good work guys!

guys please don't hold anything back. I want your opinions not matter how harsh they are. oh and btw I agree with wow Jake is Peyton's true love. Oh and I cracked up laughing when you said Brooke is the new Whitey only better looking and has better clothes. Sarah when you said" here hold my baby and I will show you the future" I don't know what but it reminded me of the Lion King, yes I know that's weird. lol after seeing Dan's anger at the end of this episode I think he might do something drastic like kidnap Jamie or something. Mia I was exactly like you when Haley threw Jamie's thank you card in the bin. Jamie is so gonna find it. Sarah I loved how you muttered under your breath " and yea mouth did do something right" lol btw you guys didn't piss me off. lol

To Leigh Anne,

Hmmm... interesting observation. I didn't even realize that until you pointed that out. How do you guys notices these subtleties!? lol

I LOVE Sarah!!!! she's hilarious!!!!!!! haha I love that she loves Dan and hates Mouth...I TOTALLY AGREE! LOL

On the other hand..did anyone get the impression that Lindsey wasn't referring to Peyton as the love of Lucas' book? "It's you who has to make a decision about Lucas"...she sort of hinted that it wasn't Peyton...and I'm not even a BLer! just reading between the lines:)

"There is NO WAY you can say that Peyton didn't love Jake! She pined over him for 2 seasons (maybe more)! She was in love with him! The fact that you can say that is hilarious.

And Brooke didn't give Lucas up for Peyton. She gave Lucas up for Lucas. She thought his destiny and happiness was with Peyton. And as much as she hated Peyton at the time, she loved Lucas ("and I probably always will..."). So she let him go.

It's funny how the LP fans in general (not just you) change things around to fulfill the "Leyton are meant to be" scenario. There is no denying that Brooke and Lucas were in love. There is no denying that Jake and Peyton were in love.

And I hope some Leyton fans will back me up on that. Otherwise, I really don't know what to say... As a Brucas fan, I can not deny that Leyton was in love. And I hope that gives my argument more credibility. I am being honest. I am not manipulating things to make my argument "seem" stronger."

I agree 110%!!! I don't know how ANYONE can say Jetyon, Brucas or Leyton weren't in love. That is the most ridiculous thing. Although I don't think I've ever heard someone say that Leyton was never in love, oh yeah thats right b/c even if we don't like them we aren't in denial about it! If you don't think Peyton was in love with Jake go back and watch the end of season 2 and tell me that again please! Plus Jeyton had the HOTTEST sex scene in OTH history! haha Thats gotta mean something right? lol ;)

And Brooke gave up Lucas because she loved him so much that she just wanted him to be happy. And she may have been mad at Peyton but Brooke has always loved Peyton, and I think deep down she just wanted her to be happy to, although she would have never admitted that. But Brooke let Lucas go and pushed him to Peyton b/c she thought that was what he truely wanted and that they were "meant to be." Which goes back to why I think Brooke is the biggest Leyton cheerleader, (that post near the beginning).

But I want to say something about all the people who are saying that Brucas won't get together because Brooke would never do that to Peyton. Now I agree that Brooke wouldn't do that to Peyton and for Brucas to ever be together again Leyton would need closure and move on with their lives. HOWEVER those of you who say that Brooke wouldn't do that to P, well Peyton did it to Brooke, TWICE, so aren't you all inadvertently saying that Brooke is a better person than Peyton? Which I think is true anyway, b/c I think Brooke has the biggest heart on the show. But I just thought that was funny and wanted to point that out!

Once again girls LOVE the podcast! NEVER hold back again!

Your podcast was hysterical!!!

I have to say that I am totally with you about Mouth. I just don't care about watching Mouth and Millie. I would much rather have seen more of Nathan and Haley and how they have moved forward in their marriage than of M/M. I mean really...I am waiting for them to take the therapists advice, act like 22 year olds and go skinny dipping!

LOVE Lucas when he is horrible. Have to disagree with you about the book (I've read it...lol). Lucas has never known what he wanted when it came to women. He wants them all!

Brooke and the baby...
Okay, so I wouldn't show up at a meeting with a baby on my hip, but who cares. It is TV and the baby is adorable. They obviously don't know what else to do with Brooke right now.

Hey agree with "wow". OTH is an awesome, special show and will always be no matter how slow it is. But they do need some Naley heat and some interesting story lines c'mon now.
I have to say these podcasts make me more critical when i watch the show.. LOL. Don't know if that makes sense but yeah.
I do like GG but it will never compare to OTH! EVER! Oh well i still love your guy's podcasts. And i agree mouth is getting way too much screen time. I mean Naley needs more c'mon!
Byeee

oh my..i really love this episode..This has the most BRucas scene ever for this season..and story is heating up..many plots are opening whether dan would have a transplant..if ravens would win..if angie would be succesful in her operation..and if..many if..leyton would be together again..heh..

this shows how brooke love angie so much..with there team up blahblah..in brooke's meeting..also many of her friends especially luke helped her..hehe..luke is too excited that he forgot its 7 pm hhehe..and the funny thing is..he saw peyton just wearing a shirt..hehe..its weird for the fact that luke is regretting that they have a past..and brooke and angie is there..haha..

its so admiring that naley do their best jsut to keep their family together..but i think for four seasons dan is the bad guy...i think mark made dan this time as a loving faather and grandfather to naley ,lucas and jamie...

i hope who ends up with lucas will be the deserving one..i think 50% chance for peyton ..coz they are the to be together but many possibilities may happen..like lindsey or brooke still loves lucas..i believe she still is in love with lucas but she has been a good friend for peyton and she gave up lucas because she knows..she can't be the girl for lucas..

though im a brucas fan..and i wanted them so badly to end up together..i think its gonna end how the story started.../lablab..

The post by "Wow..."
is very true, well the first
paragraph I'm referring to.

You guys seem to be more
anxious about GG than OTH,
BELIEVE ME these past episodes
may be slow but I'm pretty
sure all the drama headed its
way will let you guys know
why OTH is such a phenomenal
show!!!
the drama its crazy!
I know things are about to
heat up and I'm sure the
slow pace is caused by the
writers strike.

I'm sorry but nothing compared to OTH.

..I wasn't sure where to post this so I am putting it here I hope you guys get this one it is in reference to a podcast on iTunes for "Every Night Is Another Story" ...

I was listening to that podcast for " Every Night is Another Story" and someone mentioned that they didn't see the scene with Peyton and Brooke if you watch the DVD sets it is in the first chapter of "All that You Can't Leave Behind" directly after the credits if you guys don't fast forward the credits then you miss a chunk of seens including a scene with Nathon and Tim playing ball in his driveway then Dan coming in and talking about the game. Then they show a Lucas and Haley scene which leads into discussing the article on Dan, Nathon and Lucas leading to the Scott kitchen where Dan, Deb and Nathon are reading it and then they cut to the school with Brooke, Peyton,Haley, Nathon and Lucas are all in. Which leads to practice in the gym for the team and cheer- leaders where you have a scene with Whitey and Lucas talking about him playing in the father/son game and then they cut to Brooke and the squad practicing and that is where you see the Peyton explosion. Then it cuts to Lucas asking Keith to play in the father son game and Dan showing up and being the jerk he can be. I did the same thing the first time I watched my DVD's but when I saw the previously on for the next episode i went back and fast-forwarded the credits and saw what i had missed.So when I heard that I wanted to let you know. I know it is sad I know all that from memory but this is my favorite show on tv and I love your podcast so if you guys get a chance go back and check out the scenes you missed.

This is for Arya*

There is NO WAY you can say that Peyton didn't love Jake! She pined over him for 2 seasons (maybe more)! She was in love with him! The fact that you can say that is hilarious.

And Brooke didn't give Lucas up for Peyton. She gave Lucas up for Lucas. She thought his destiny and happiness was with Peyton. And as much as she hated Peyton at the time, she loved Lucas ("and I probably always will..."). So she let him go.

It's funny how the LP fans in general (not just you) change things around to fulfill the "Leyton are meant to be" scenario. There is no denying that Brooke and Lucas were in love. There is no denying that Jake and Peyton were in love.

And I hope some Leyton fans will back me up on that. Otherwise, I really don't know what to say... As a Brucas fan, I can not deny that Leyton was in love. And I hope that gives my argument more credibility. I am being honest. I am not manipulating things to make my argument "seem" stronger.

Hi Guys, I'm from the UK and I LOVE your podcasts. I listen to the ones for One Tree Hill and Top Model as I do not watch Gossip GIrl.

I love how you never really have favourites. If you love someone one week, you say it and if they bug you the next week then you say it!

RIght now, One Tree Hill in general is a little disappointing to me. It just seems to focus on Peyton wallowing in self pity because her boyfriend who she dumped has moved on...give me a break, I only need to tune into Jerry Springer to see that.

Brooke's storyline bugs me because it is very unrealistic. I'm 23 and if someone gave me a sick child to look after 24/7 I would have to have them sectioned in a psychiatric facility because they would be bonkers!!

Jamie, however, I love, lately he's the only one to talk any sense on that show.

Keep up the good work and I'm excited to hear your next podcast.

Just to make sth clear! Just because you write the final chapter of a book, it absolutely does not mean that it's finished. Usually it takes about half a year to edit a book before publishing it. So no, you can't say that he should've realised already about his true feelings.As I said a few days ago, it takes time to finally see the real truth in our words.

One more thing - someone said that Peyton proposed to Jake, but couldn't say yes to Luke ... C'mon. She didn't really love Jake. She proposed to him cause she was depressed and desperate and she needed sth good in her life. Yea, a bit selfish, I admit. But, a lot was happening to her at that time. She realised that she stil loved Luke who was with her best friend. That's gotta be hard.

And about Brooke letting Luke go for Peyton ... Lol. Brooke hated Peyton at the beginning of season 4. Remember? She only did what was best for herself. She didn't make Luke be with Peyton. Don't get me wrong though - I loooove Brooke. And I love that she and Peyton are such good friends again. I love Breyton even more than Leyton:)

And another thing – jake and peyton should b together, im over leyton, theres no spark anymore and soz guys but u needs to be more specific - nobody mentioned that in the ep, Q says to Nate "thanks for seeing my potential" and Nate''s like 'no prob' but it was Haley that vested interest in him!!! people forget that haley did Mia and Quentin...she should have more credit! OMG how much can u not wait for Haleys album!!!!!!! and the first song played in Peyton's studio is called 'leaving town alive' encase u wanted to know! anyhoo - more hot naley, less Brooke and Baby, more lucas and haley scenes?! i mean they were BFF's since forever! and M&M are soo trying to be NALEY!! Another side note…we know from season 4 finale and this season that lucas wrote about brooke and payton, but what about haley? Or Nathan? They must have been big influences on his life and views of love…and no mentions of that! Oh and u must do podcast for the next seasons, so much to look forward too...naley wedding, chris keller and haley, brucas, leyton, naley weeding 2, peyton's mom and stalker, and bro, haley pregnant..!!!!!! so exited for u! p.s random – what about the timing thing on oth – if seasons are half a year and naley got married at the end of season one then by the time Jamie was born, they should have been married 6 in a half years at least but a few eps back haley says ‘ nearly 6 years’ married… time in OTH is insane..! till next time!! shazz

It seems like you guys hate One Tree Hill compared to your Gossip Girl podcast. I love One Tree Hill more than I've loved any other show. I'm only 22, but I don't see that changing ever. This show has so much heart and meaning and beauty. Yes, GG may be the new "fun" thing. But nothing will replace OTH in my heart. I admit, it has been a little slow lately. And some storylines have me pulling my hair (Brooke being the leader of the Leyton train, Peyton not getting over herself). But I like to blame the writer's strike for slowing the pace.

If I read one more of these commentators saying that Lucas is in denial about his LOVE for Peyton, I don't know what I will do with myself! ARE. YOU. KIDDING. ME?

Just because you like Lucas and Peyton doesn't mean that's what will happen or what is meant to happen. Rewatch the whole show, and you will see that Lucas is "meant to be" with a lot of people.

Having watched the whole show, it is very obvious to me that Brooke gave Lucas up for Peyton. And it is very clear to me that Lucas and Peyton would never have been if Brooke didn't give Lucas up and freeze him out and force him onto Peyton because of everyone's notion that "Leyton is meant to be" being forced on her.

Peyton proposed to Jake. But when Lucas proposed, she couldn't say yes?

Jake is the real true love for Peyton. He made her strong. He gave her up for a better life. And he was the one she pictured her life with.

Brooke and Lucas are more right for each other.

But having said all that, it's clear right now that Lucas is in love with Lindsey! He is not in denial about anything.

WOW your honesty made the podcast even better if you ask me. Even though I will never agree with you guys I like that you're at least being real. Umm you guys are so wrong about the Angie thing but I had to LMFAO when you guys said it lmao. I did specualted that Dan kills someone for the herart and isn't a preist next in line for the heart, so yeah I think Dans going to kill

as for LP I dont think anything happens. The CW needed a boost in the ratings and notice NO ONE cares about Lucas and Lindsey and is manipulating the whole LP thing to get ratings.

PS: Probably your best podcast so far. Now off to listen to GG

Polish_girl: he's still making revisions to the book - in the birthday episode he talked to Lindsey about getting her notes and not being happy with the ch7 ending.

And yeah, Lucas needs to do something to get fans back on his side. Right now he just looks like an idiot.

I think I mixed up Sarah and Jackie.

i love you guys, seriously... but you guys really didn't focus that much on haley and jamie card thing involving dan. i really wish you guys talked more about it because everyone seems to be so conflicted.

I think Haley was right to throw away Jamie's thank you note. He's way too young to understand the complete situation and if he had be older, I think things would have worked out differently but right now, she's protecting her son from the heartache of the truth. It was obvious that Haley was having a hard time making that decision and you could tell her heart was breaking for Jamie. I really support her on what she did; it's a sucky situation and in reality I don't think anyone truly wins, but she did what was best for her son.

Sarah i totally agree with you i cannot stand Mouth in general and i think they really need to cut down on mouth and millie time
also i hate that millicent calls him marvin all the time and that brooke is a leyton fan

A whole bunch of comments so not sure if anyone has said this but you guys were exceptionally hysterical this week. Not caring who you piss off agrees with you.

Thank you for acknowledging the Huxtable thing, that was much appreciated.

marin - Lucas's book is ready, isn't it? First of all he said that it's finished when he gave it Haley to read and second thing it ends with 'and he waited his whole life for it to return'. Sounds like a perfect ending of a book to me.

Lucas: jump from a bridge and we'll all be happy.LOL

I think that your right about the Mouth and Milly thing. I think that there is too much of them. I would be fine with them just as a side story. But it seems like as the show goes on there is more and more Mouth and Milly and less of Peyton and Lucas.

I personally think that Peyton and Lucas and meant to be together, and i really hope that soon they will be together again.

As for the new episode...I TOTALLY AGREE. There is NO WAY that after all of the dwelling and sobbing he did over lindsay, that hes just gonna bounce right back to Peyton. I think that it's gonna be like a dream. I mean i hope that it wont be and i would be yelling at the TV if it was..haha but i just dont think Lucas is done sobbing yet..unfortanetly

I don't get why Brooke is a Leyton fan either! It seems like everyone is these days and it bothers me like crazy. And I love how you said that everyone says Luke's in love with Peyton...except for Luke! I actually really like Lindsay. I'm a major major Brucas fan, but I would like Lucas with anyone but Peyton.

I like Mouth and Milly...their little side storylines aren't really relevant to the show's progression but I still like them just the same. And her last name is Huckstable! I found that hilarious, as well.

Good podcast, ladies.

so its true... this podcast was halarious! man it was funny...

FIRST about the whole Brooke being a Leyton fan.. that's a whole nother story,,,with real life issuses and what not.. BUT I don't see anything wrong with her being a Leyton fan.. but yeah whatever!

Mouth's screentime.. as much as I love Lee.. I do get a tad borning with him.. but i agree MILLIE IS AMAZING!!!!! Like i realllly love her!

But I love the new clothing line! Baby Brooke WOULD BE AMAZING!

haha Deb's pill popping! that's halarious! AND I will be Skillz new love interest! haha.. and

WHERE IS WHITEY!
About Dans' tombstone... FUNNY AS HELL.. yea it was HUGE! AND MUCH GREATER THAN KEITHS! haha

and Yea, he is stalking Nathan... HE'S CRAZY! and then yea.. Jamie is the only one rooting for him!

haha Jamie is the new Whitey! haha he's sooo cute!

Now Haley's actions! ... i can seriously understand that! But yea, it being on the top, was stupid! haha but yea... that's a tough one! Maybe he WON'T go in the trash!

Hahaha next week.. i think IT'S LUCAS' DREAM! and it's gonna confuse him and he'll be all like, "what is going on with me"
haha bill Cosby! nad Mouth was cute at the end! see you can't even hate him! cause he's got the sweetest moments!

YOU DIND'T PISS ME OFF AT ALL... I agreed TONS!
HAHA i think you guys are LOVED NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... still not sure who i Laugh like.. .but yea when one of you said, "Im a famous podcaster" someone started laughing and TAHT WAS HER! my roomies and myself get freaked out cause it sounds just like me! haha buut yea.. you're vicous with you tight laugh hahaahah!

im off to listen to it.. but it's really creepy to.. i dont know which one of you it is.. but my rommies say it sounds just like me! and the way you laugh ahah.. they didn't believe me when i said it wasn't me! so that's creepy..and i realized it's true.. since i hear this is halarious there must be laughing and I'll try to see which it is.... off to listen!

Love that Brooke is LP's biggest cheerleader. The BL friend scenes are nice.
The girls' scenes this year are my favorite.
Peyton and Haley are soulful and sweet. Breyton are absolutely perfect as best friends and each others biggest supporters.
Finally, Peyton read the book! From her reaction it seems she knows what Lindsey and Haley already know - Lucas is still in love with her.
One thing, Haley said she doesn't realize her subconscious creeps into her music until the song is done - Lucas' book isn't finished, he just sent the first pages to Lindsey. He'll realize when he's done it's about Peyton.
I loved the BPL moment at the beginning!
And Brooke was portrayed so much better this ep with Angie - really sweet!
The promo was sizzling - Wow! Although the promos have been incredibly misleading this year (this one as well, I'm sure) - it was still great to see CHem!
YAY LEYTON

OMG I'm still laughing. You made my day girls.

Please, please, pleas: please yourself. :D

So I agree on evertything you said.

OMG is Lucas really so dumb that he is the only person that doesn't see his love for Peyton? If their was something in his behaviour it would be ok but he wrote a freaking book! And why did Haley tell P about the book and that he is still in love with her? How does she know? I hate this storyline so much, esp. because Brooke is suddenly all for LP and Peyton has one storyline this season: loving Lucas...give her something new, something fresh, please.

Brooke and her meeting - I had the exact same thoughts: yeah right, go to a meeting with your crying baby and everybody will be happy and the baby will be calm because you have to show them the future. Where the hell does Mark live? He could do it more real because TH seems like a dreamworld to me.

I didn't feel sorry for Dan at al, he deserved everything. Lucas was so great, I also love him when he is bad because I can't stand him when he is crying over his relationships. I would love to see Dan being cruel again, that's what he is all about and it would only proove them right, you know?

As for Lindsey/Peyton - I was like: I would kick your ass if I were L and why does she tell her that Lucas loves her and worse: why does she give her the book?! bad, bad, bad.

Mouth - OMG I hate Mouth, I'm sorry but it's boredom. I don't care about him and give me more of the core 5 drama and not Mouth not able to read from the prompter. And IMO the the scene with I love you was too cheesy.

I lvoed this podcast the most and please say what you think because you are so funny. :) Love hearing your podcast!

Oh and Mia: your Well hello was great, it made me laugh so hard. :)

Ok, so I was sitting at a coffee shop while I listened to this one... and note to self- don't listen to these in public. I was laughing out loud and I'm pretty sure I looked crazy. This is by far my favorite podcast of yours.

I totally hate that Brooke is Leyton's cheerleader. I feel like that is completely not who she is. I mean she can be happy for them if they are together, but I don't think she would have ever cheered for them. I admit I am a Brucas fan but I have started to accept that apparently Leyton is "meant to be." I don't really understand why though. I mean yeah they had this big thing in season 1 but they were never actually together. Then Lucas chose Brooke. He could have decided to go for Peyton in season 2, but he wanted Brooke. Maybe I am subconsciously blocking all of the Leyton out though. Who knows.

I also love that Lucas is there for Brooke. That was the one thing I hated about season 4. Brooke and Lucas had almost no time together and I always loved their friendship. I loved that he helped her in season 2 with her student council campaign and I loved that Brooke helped Lucas with Nathan and Dan. Lucas fricken got his mom to convince Brooke's parents to let her stay in Tree Hill when they moved to California. Clearly they are really important to each other so I love that that's back.

Personally, I used to hate Peyton. She was the worst friend to Brooke. Brooke has always been there for Peyton and how does she repay her? She hooks up with her boyfriend. Lately however, I love the Breyton friendship. The thing I really miss this season is Haley and Brooke. They were best friends in seasons 3 and 4. This season they have had like 2 scenes together. Brooke was Haley's maid of honor and she's Jamie's godmother. And with Brooke's story line it's the perfect chance for Haley to give her advice but the writers are completely ignoring their friendship.

So with the whole Dan issue... I keep going back and forth. One minute I'm like just let Jamie see his Grandpa and then the next I'm like so maybe he changed... but he still killed Keith! Keep that kid far away. I was reading something on a different board and someone brought up how Deb tried to kill Dan at the end of season 2 but everyone seems to have forgotten about that. Naley lets her live with them and she's Jamie's nanny. What I'm understanding is attempted murder is okay... but if you actually succeed, they will shut you out forever. I get that they were two different situations but still. I don't know... just seems a little strange to me.

Sarah, I totally agree. I can not STAND Mouth. I wish he would have taken that job in Omaha. Mia, you are hilarious... 'prosti-tots' and 'Brooke's the new Whitey'... loved it. Jackie, I agree. really need to read this book of Lucas's because apparently it'll turn me into a Leyton fan.

I love your podcasts! Definitely love when you guys don't hold back!

I have to say that after listening to your podcast for OTH and then the one you did for GG, you guys really hate OTH!!

hahahhahha this podcast was just too randomly hilarious!!! thanks for that!!
good impression of Cosby too haha!!
(and the "you've had someone who wrote a manuscript to tell everyone about their long lost love for you" thing was also hilarious! LOL)
We also found it strange that the heart surgeon called Brooke "Brooke"...wouldn't it normally be "Miss Davis" or something like that?? (or that's the experience we've had with doctors..that they call you by the last name cuz of the personal involvement issue and stuff...
nice job on the podcasts! LOL...

hugs
twinzz
BELGIUM

Hi everybody! First of all let me say I absolutely loooove your podcast! I don't always agree with what you have to say, but I don't mind that. You are entitled to your opinion, as am I;)

I loved this episode of OTH. It made me laugh, and cry a bit, and evoked all the right feelings. I am a big Peyton fan and all I want is for her to be happy. I'm also a Leyton fan but in this season I really don't like Lucas so I'm not sure I want him to be with my P. Sawyer:)

But here's one thing. Everyone is saying (in real life, not in the show) that Lucas knows how he feels, he knows he's in love with Lindsey and that he didn't write another book about Peyton. Ok, the fact is he spent the last two years of his life with Lindsey. Of course he loves her (Do we really believe a person can love only once in his/hers life?), we can't deny that. The question is, however, who does he love more. Luke and Peyton left things unfinished, there was no closure, and that's what bothers me. I want them to either come back together, or move on.

Let me also say this – I'm a published writer myself, and I know for a fact that our subconscious does always find a way to get into our words. And NO, we do not always realize that. It took me two years to realize, or rather admit, that my third book was not about my husband, but about my ex I hadn't seen for years. We only see what we want to see. And Lucas does not want to let Lindsey go. Believing he didn't write a book about his ex is crucial for him in this moment. But listening to the parts from his book, I really believe he wrote about Peyton. I can feel it, it’s in his choice of words – you don’t describe a comet like that.

One more thing. I've been wondering about how you guys look like. It would be gr8 if we could put faces to your voices:)

hey guys! I love u guys! i'm glad u cots into the nitty gritty because so much happens (although not in this ep so much..) that needs to be voiced. i loved the boys not giving in even a little to Dan, otherwise i would b upset that they sweeped Kieth away so quickly. Also i think Naley needs more scenes of them being cute together (Millie and Mouth seem to be taking thier spot light?!). Lucas and Peyton should be together, but different circumstances should pull them together because Lindsay doesnt seem enough. Love skills, love jaime, i think the Brooke and baby thing should conclude, Dan will probs get a new heart and continue to manipulate and torture, no suprises them (I'm already scared for everyone!!) and guys keep up the good work, i prefer all the details and specific things that u mention, keeps it special. P.s LOVE season 1 podcast!! i want more!! u guys really needs to watch ever ep - i found this season to be slow and kinda boring compared to season 1-4. it almost feels like a new show because so much has changed. even the filming itself seems more 'tv-showish' to that of old episodes where u believed in the place they took u to. hopefully next few eps and next season will pace up with stories set up.. ok thanks for reading - dont ever stop! lots of love - shailee xoxo

- "Brooke's the new Whitey!"
- "Here, hold my baby and I will show you the future!"
Hahahahahha, you guys are just too funny!

The speculations about who is getting killed.. "Deb with all the popping pills? hahahha.. Karen? noooooooo" hahahahahah

And where's Whitey, anyway?

"As for Brooke being LP's #1 cheerleader, I can't stand it. But I think I get it. Brooke NEEDS for LP to be together. She gave Lucas up so he could be with Peyton, because she believed that they were meant to be. But if LP doesn't wind up together, than she gave up the one guy she has ever truely loved for nothing. So of course she would want LP together, cause then she gave up Lucas for no reason. But I still can't stand it." (Posted by: Kristin)
AGREED!
I'm sorry, but I just love Brooke's modesty! "It's good right? I know!" hahah

Yes! Love Lucas when he's mean! oh.. and Nathan!
I think the Scott brothers got a "sexy thing" that turns on every time their nerves explode!

We needed more Naley in this episode though..

Well, well.. nothing to complain, just thank you guys for giving me something to listen while my insomnia attacks! lol!

Looking forward to Season 1 podcast! :)

That was the BEST podcast you have ever done! continue like that! I love that Sarah loves dan and that she hates mouth and that you are all not scared to give your opinion regardless of the fans feelings! AND you all really made me laugh with you going on a tangent about experiences of your own!! HAHA WELL DONE!!!

Girls just listen to your podcast, and not stop laughing, I agree with everything yours say, they have to send a copy of the book lucas to hear what's going on, brookwith the baby angie is sweet, and please more scenes naley acting as a marriage couple, know what I mean

your fan number 1 in Latin America

While I shamelessly admit to being a rabid Peyton fanboy, I actually agree on your criticism towards her in this podcast. I, too, love her better as a single, independent woman. I still do love her, but Season 5 Peyton has been so far my least favorite version of her. I adored Leyton back in Season 1, but the writers' weak portrayal of her in recent episodes this season really forced me to hate it. This only proves how Jake is the real perfect guy for Peyton; Jake actually enabled her to grow stronger, unlike that dumba** Lucas who's just being so delusional, ignorant, and a complete jerk currently. I don't want him to be with either Peyton, Brooke OR Lindsey! These girls deserve far better than this dumb jerk.

First of all, I love One Tree Hill, but I got to say it is very boring right now!! Everyone’s storylines are just dragging right now. I just don’t get it, because when this show is good, its great!! I seriously would stop watching if i was a new viewer, but this show has been on since I was 16 and now I am 21 and cant just stop watching it because I have invested so much time in it, I just have to know what happens. But come on writers, what is going on??? It just angers me. But anyway here are my thoughts:

Nathan and Haley: I love that Nathan and Haley are back on track with basketball and music, but the writers need to sex Naley up. Come on…they are 22, they just got back together, they should be like having sex all the time…they did in season 3!! They are acting like an old 50 year old married couple!!! They don’t even touch anymore. It’s especially frustrating when you have Joy and James who have like amazing chemistry together and who don’t even interact anymore. Come on, sex Naley up!!!

Brooke: I love Brooke, her and Skills are my favs but I am not feeling the whole rent-a-baby storyline, its so not realistic that she would take her freakin rent-a-baby to her corporate meeting. I miss funny and over the top Brooke. She needs a man (like Owen or that hot doctor)!!!

Peyton and Lucas: The whole Lucas, Peyton, Lindsey triangle needs to end NOW!! I can not watch another Lucas pinning over Lindsey, denying his feelings for Peyton scene again!! I just can not do it. Get Leyton together or move on…I don’t care if Lindsey is killed off in the process. Anything to get this storyline finished because its ruining two characters that everybody loves.

Mouth and Millie: First of all, they are not Nathan and Haley, so writers stop trying to make Naley 2.0. Its not working, no one likes Mouth, I know I don’t.

Skills is awesome and Jamie is the most adorable kid on TV and Dan can not die!!

One Tree Hill just isnt good right now, but knowing its history it should end with a bang!

Wow!! You guys are freakin hilarious!! And I think you guys are dead on!! And thank you for being so honest about these shows!! I am new to the ONE TREE HILL bandwagon and at times this show makes feel like "Wow, I can really relate to how 'so and so' feels" and other times I like, "WTF! Are you freakin kidding me!?!? I'm 22 and there is no way these people can have this easy."

Hey tell The CW that they should use that as a marketing campaign for One Tree Hill!! I can see it now:

MONDAYS ON THE CW!!!
OMFG! - Gossip Girl 8/7c
WTF! - One Tree Hill 9/8c

Oh my goodness, I always love your podcasts, but today I laughed SOOOO hard. You guys are terrific. I love the EVIL Dan love Sarah, I can totally see him finding a heart via someone else. Peyton was okay in this episode, I feel like she is trying to move on by going to see Lindsey, but how did she go to New York and back with Work and baby and brooke not noticing. I agree about Mouth too, he is alright, but I feel like he has WAY to much screen time this season. We need more of the core 5. I am stoked for the next episode and your next podcast! You guys rock!

hey just wanted to say thanks for clearing the out of placed epi 1x08 podcast thing!!!

omg! and yall def were crackin me up today!! i love how off subject yall get!! lol

i dont think yall were too harsh today... of course being here since S1, im partial to mouth and such... but i act. agree w/ what yall have said about it! i could do with SOOOOOO much less!!

um but i have to agree that the pace was slow this wk... idk why, but i for sure like the higher paced episodes!!

cant wait til the nxt podcast!!!

xoxo
~manda

I agree that being honest is a great idea. No matter what you like and don't like about the show I tune into hear your podcasts for every episode. It is much more entertaining to hear your actual thoughts as opposed to the watered down, walking on eggshells version that you guys usually display.

I usually don't agree with everything that is said but I like how you explain it.

As for this week I liked the episode, although I could be adding my excitment over next weeks promo into my opinions. I think it is weird that everybody is telling Peyton she has a choice to make when it is clear if she could, she would be with Lucas. I think Lucas is the one everybody needs to be talking too. And I think it is great that Brooke is a Leyton fan and after all the heartbreak I think it makes sense that she just lets all the pain go and be happy for her friends. That's why I don't think Brucas will happen again, at least not anytime soon.

I so loved this podcast I've never laughed so hard. For the first time since these started I acturally agreed with nearly everything said. :)

I loved this podcast, my favorite one yet...lol! This was hilarious, I was seriously rolling on the floor laughing listening to it. Thanks for the shoutout that was awesome.

But this is what you should do all the time because it makes it so hilarious when you really speak your mind. No bashing from me...lol! Number one fan! I think this podcast was perfect and if anyone thinks differently well too bad.

I agree about the book, I get on some level it can have Lucas subconcious in it but seriously how dumb is Lucas to not realize he was not writing about Peyton once he read the book over if he even did read it over. Apparently I need to read this book because it turns you into a Leyton fan.

I loved the part where you started to talk about the dating thing and was saying Mia kept getting hit on because she had a sexy voice which she does, don't worry not hitting on you I have a girlfriend, but that was funny especially when Jackie was like, "I'm a famous podcaster and I'm not getting the hot guys." Then Sarah was like "Well because they can't see you." And the Mia "Well hello!" Lmao!

Jackie, I agree with you I really don't care for Mouth and I like it better when he pops in and out, when Mouth comes on it's time to hit the snooze button. He's so boring but Millicent rocks!

I loved the Brooke thing but the whole baby to the office was weird but funny all at the same time. Lucas is a great friend and I hope they keep building up that friendship, whether it leads to something more or not I'll still support it.

Peyton...I don't anyone to really attack me so I won't really say nothing except good luck with that book. Whatever gives just a little bit of hope is good for you...I guess.

Keep up the good work and hopefully you'll keep doing it this way because hopefully we all want to hear your opinions and not what you think is safe.

P.S. Sarah, good luck at running a business and taking care of your adopted baby...lol! Joking.

I was laughing SO HARD during this one!

I totally agree with MOST of what you said!

WHY is everyone in Tree Hill supporting Lucas and Peyton? It's totally out of character, ESPECIALLY coming from Brooke! And Haley, who just forced Peyton into admitting that she's in love with the IDEA of Lucas, just told Peyton that Lucas is still in love with her? Can she NOT see that he's in love with Lindsey? Lucas knows what he wrote better than anyone else!

I feel like the writer's strike sucked all the energy out of the show... like they were rushed and make these slow episodes. I've never felt like this about OTH either.

I loved the Brucas scenes!

The promo made me gag because the CW is probably messing with us, and I have Leyton, lol.

Mouth kind of bores me sometimes too, but I can't imagine OTH without Mouth.

I felt bad for Dan... I know he did awful things... but I just felt bad.

Oh man! i love your guys podcasts! especially this one! i really enjoyed it, it sounded like you guys had a blast talking about this episode, which in my opinion was a bore. And, Jackie, i kinda agree with you on the Gossip Girl comparison. It is hard not to compare, but it did kinda influence my viewing of OTH, and i loved One Tree hill wayy before Gossip Girl obviously but yeah, the slow moving storylines is making me like Gossip Girl a little bit more, but anyway.

And i'm with you guys about the Mouth storyline...i don't like it. Give Nathan and Haley more a storyline! or jeez, give Skillz more of a storyline!! But.. i will say, i too also was a little "awww..." about the teleprompter thing. i thought that was so cute and a great way to say i love you to Millie. but thats it, everything else could have been scrapped!

Dan's Tombstone-i think Dan envisioned those words on his tombstone for a reason. Those are the relationships that are trouble and because of that, he wants to fix those relationships before he...well kicks the bucket.

Jamie's Note- Mia! i totally outloud said OH NO! also! and i immediately thought that Jamie was definitely gonna find the note also, BUT...i have a feeling Haley took the note back out. We Never did see her walking away after throwing it away. I really think she took the note back out because she was so torn about the whole situation, that maybe she did take the note out, and maybe, she'll give it to Dan in the next episode. Who knows though.

I can't tell you guys enough how great this podcast was! I would love it if you guys continued these podcasts with like other seasons of One Tree Hill, i would love to hear what you thought about season 3 or 4 even!
You guys totally made me laugh out loud multiple times in this podcasts, Your laughs are infectious! and Mia- loved how you wrote in your notes about Millie's last name, when they said that on Tv, i laughed out loud as well. and the prostitot's! hahaha loved it!
Great Job1 can't wait to hear your gossip girl podcast and the next OTH one!

First of all, I LOVE your podcasts. I listen to them every week religiously. Secondly, I LOVE your opinions. I think most of them are right and I'm glad you were "harsh" because while it may not be sugar coated, it's the truth. Though I have to say that Sarah suggesting they may kill Millie off was really strange and made no sense at all. Other than that I agree with almost everything you say. Good luck and I can't wait for the next podcast. God Bless, Lauren.

Thank you for the lack of Brooke and baby bashing this week! I'm a huge Brooke and Brucas fan and I feel like you're always bashing them, so it was nice to not hear that this week.

I agree that Lucas is showing NO signs that he wants to be with Peyton right now and I also agree that everyone should stop telling Lucas how he feels. He's a grown man. Everyone has jumped on the Leyton band wagon and I don't know how that happened. Haley and Skillz definitely used to be Brucas fans.

I LOVED this podcast. I think you were right with practically everything you said. 100% accurate on everything to do with Lucas/Lindsey/Peyton. Why can't people listen to Lucas, he is 22 years old, i'm pretty sure he knows how he feels. This damn book is getting on my nerves, I really want to read it to. Because honestly what we have heard from the book doesn't describe Peyton/Leyton at all! But whatever. The only person that was listening to Lucas was Peyton, but everyone else kept telling her she/Lucas is wrong. And now probably after reading this book she is going to be back on the Leyton train, along with everyone else! Now all we need is Lucas to hop on. :rolleyes: As for Brooke being LP's #1 cheerleader, I can't stand it. But I think I get it. Brooke NEEDS for LP to be together. She gave Lucas up so he could be with Peyton, because she believed that they were meant to be. But if LP doesn't wind up together, than she gave up the one guy she has ever truely loved for nothing. So of course she would want LP together, cause then she gave up Lucas for no reason. But I still can't stand it.

I LOVE the fact that Lucas is there for Brooke, they have always been there for each other in their times of need. Lucas helped Brooke run for President and made sure Brooke didn't have to move away in season 2. Brooke helped Lucas out w/ the whole Dan situation and then also w/ Nathan in season 2. Then of course Brooke was the one who was at Lucas' side through Keith's death, and she is what truely brought him out of his dark place from that. And now Lucas is there for her with Angie, I absolutely LOVE their friendship, and it really has the potential to grow into something more, just like it did in season 2/3. But not until the whole Lindsey and Peyton things are resolved.

Dude I couldn't believe the things Lucas was saying to and about Dan, I was shocked. But I def. see where he is coming from. On some level I feel bad for Dan but then I also think that Naley are doing the right thing by keeping him away from Jamie. But I feel soo bad for Jamie cause he just doesn't understand.

Millimouth, yeah I thought they were cute, but I agree to an extent that they take up too much air time that can go to the core 5. I also got teary eyed at the whole "I love you" on the teleprompter.

As for Peyton, I really do like her when she isn't pinning for Lucas. I want her to move on with her life already. I say she takes a trip to Savannah and finds Jake and Jenny! That was probably when I like her the most! She was soo selfless with Jake. And yeah her showing up at Linsdey's office in NY, yeah that is a little weird. But I guess we didn't get enough LP pimping with Haley and Brooke, so they needed Linsdey to once again tell Peyton and us that Lucas is CLEARLY in love with Peyton! :sarcasm:

Brooke and Angie are too cute together! I love it! I'm going to be soo sad to see Angie go. :(

I LOVED this podcast, please don't hold anything back anymore. Can't wait to hear next weeks!

As for next weeks preview, well lets just say that it isn't a dream but it isn't what it seems like either!
And I'm not going to speculate on the whole Dan thing seeing as I am spoiled and know what is going to happen...

OMG! I just finished listening to the podcast and as soon as you guys started talking about someone dying and Dan taking their heart I had to comment. While I was watching the episode, I couldn't help but think that maybe they were going to be killing Quentin off based on the way his character was talking. He was making amends for things he's said and done. He seemed too happy by the end of the episode and it is just a pattern that I have seen done in the past. I don't want to see Quentin die, but that could be a possible candidate for Dan, if the writers were to go that way. LOVE your podcasts by the way!

Great Podcast! I am a fan of OTH and I really like the characters and the show in general. However I sometimes get REALLY frustrated by some of the storylines - like most of all the Lucas book & Peyton one. Like everyone knows better who Lucas is in love with than he himself. (I am neither a Brucas nor Leyton fan!!!) There is one HUGE thing which was bothering me the whole episode: Jamie was born on their graduation day 5 years ago, so how is it possible that they celebrate his birthday and afterwards talk about the 12 games which are left to reach the play offs?
However, great podcast again - you almost said exactly what I thought! Looking forward to two more podcasts season 5 and the rest of season 1!